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Pavlo Kazarin: On War, Mobilization and the Challenges Facing Ukrainian Society – In-Depth Interview


Journalist and soldier Pavlo Kazarin talks in Serhii Sternenko's podcast about the front, mobilization, army support and changes needed in the rear.

In a new episode of Serhii Sternenko's podcast, Ukrainian journalist, essayist, soldier and Shevchenko Prize laureate Pavlo Kazarin shares his frontline experiences and thoughts on mobilization, army support and the importance of drone donations.

Kazarin detailed his service in an assault UAV unit, thanked volunteers, and expressed skepticism about a quick end to the war through negotiations. He stressed that preserving Ukrainian statehood is the main objective, drawing parallels with Finland's wartime experience.

The discussion covered illusions about the war and society's expectations of victory. Kazarin highlighted the need for an honest conversation about mobilization and the role of the rear. He stated that the war continues in part because the state avoids unpopular decisions and that the key problem is the shortage of personnel in the military.

Special attention was given to the role of volunteers and donations, which allow rapid responses to frontline needs. The interview also addressed the value of civilians for the army's flexible development and the necessity of reforming bureaucracy and approaches inside the armed forces.

Wrapping up, Kazarin emphasized that for Ukraine, victory means preserving statehood and sovereignty, and the nation's future will depend on how society defines victory for itself.