The “Naskrut” podcast featured a candid conversation with Lieutenant Colonel Kyrylo Veres, commander of the 20th Separate Regiment of Unmanned Systems K2. During the broadcast, both the hosts and guest called on viewers to support Ukraine's Armed Forces with donations for drones; among donors, a branded knife with the unit's insignia was traditionally raffled off.
Veres explained that since the unit was upgraded from battalion to regiment, the effectiveness of drone use has nearly doubled—currently, they destroy about 80% more enemy targets than before. The regiment particularly needs operators and engineers for its newly created ground robotic systems units, as well as specialists for assembly and modernization. Anyone wanting to join can apply through the official website.
The discussion paid special attention to the evacuation of wounded soldiers and logistics made possible by unmanned systems. Over one and a half months, the regiment evacuated 10 wounded, eight of whom could not have left the battlefield without technical help. Veres emphasized that such logistical support acts as a key morale booster for the infantry.
The Ukrainian military's point-based reward system was also addressed. According to Veres, during its first two months, the unit covered up to 80% of its needs through this system, but now it works slowly and often does not objectively reflect operational achievements. The commander stresses the need to prioritize neutralizing enemy personnel over equipment and calls for quick, honest decision-making at all levels.
Veres named the army’s main issues as lack of flexibility in leadership, fear of telling the truth, and widespread “idiocy.” He believes that casualties can be minimized through advanced technologies, better supply, and strong personnel motivation.
The commander also shared his view of the future: he does not believe drones will fully replace infantry soldiers, but gradual relocation of crews to safer conditions and the ongoing development of robotic systems will help save lives. He noted the crucial role of volunteers, donations, and public support in ensuring rapid front-line supply of modern equipment.
The final part of the discussion included audience questions, talk of possible ceasefires, the meaning of victory, and soldiers' motivation and post-war plans. Thanks to the audience's active participation, over 2 million UAH was raised during the podcast to purchase new drones for the Ukrainian army.